About Doodles



Many people have questions about the different generations and coat types of golden doodles.  On this page, we will dedicate a bit of space to try to take a bit of the mystery and confusion out of these questions.  First of all, I will expain a few golden doodle basics that I have observed over the years:

1.  MOST golden doodles coats lighten considerably as they mature.  Puppies that are red can end up very light apricot and puppies that are dark apricot usually end up light apricot.  Puppies that are light apricot or a golden color will often end up cream.  The ones that are a true golden color
Suzie-6 weeks old
Suzie-2 yrs old

often retain their color or even darken slightly.  Our experienced eye can often tell which puppies will lighten, but we do not guarantee color.








2. MOST golden doodles coats get more wavy or curly as they mature.  A slightly wavy puppy will often mature to have a nice full wavy or even loose curly coat and a puppy with a loose curly coat will often mature to have a tight curly coat.  Flat coated doodles do not obtain a true doodle coat but stay more like a retriever with a softer, more wavy coat on their backs.
Stella-straight coated f1b puppy


Stella-wavy coated f1b adult

Chloe-flat coated multi-generational puppy


Chloe-flat coated multi-generational young adult

3.  Male vs female golden doodle~ Often people ask me the difference between a male and a female dog.  Many people have the preconcieved notion that a female doodle will have better manners and be better behaved.  While this can sometimes be the case, it more often is not.  A neutered male doodle from good, calm parents can generally be trained to be a very gentle, well mannered dog.  My observation of male vs female doodles is that the females are usually very bright, quick to learn, loyal and affectionate.  Males tend to be smart, but maybe a tad slower to catch on to things, often a bit more laid back and they love their owners with complete abandon.  Females sometimes retain a bit more independence and self-possession-though they are very affectionate and loving, they can also be a bit more distant. Whereas males are the steady, faithful friend that is known as "man's best friend". As you may be able to detect, I have a slight preference for male doodles :)  This is indeed just that~a preference.  Some people swear by a female dog.  Here I have given you my opinion, an opinion shared by many that have experience with doodles and poodles, but an opinion nonetheless :)





GOLDEN DOODLE GENERATIONS:

F1 golden doodle: Golden retriever x poodle The f1 golden doodle has 1 purebred golden retriever parent and 1 purebred poodle parent.  These puppies usually end up having a loose, wavy, teddy bear type coat that is low shedding and mildly irritating to allergies.  The f1 golden doodle tends to get a bit more of the retriever characteristics in looks and personality. These dogs inherit a great deal of hybrid vigour.


Tucker-f1 golden doodle
5 weeks old

Tucker-f1 golden doodle-
3 weeks old

Tucker-f1 golden doodle- 8 months old


F1b Golden doodle: (First generation backcross) F1 golden doodle x poodle~The f1b golden doodle has 1 f1 golden doodle parent and 1 purebred poodle parent.  These puppies tend to have wavy to curly coats that are non-shedding and hypo-allergenic.  They are the best for allergy sufferers. They still retain a great deal of hybrid vigour.


Rufus-curly f1b-
2 weeks old
Rufus-curly f1b-
7 weeks old

Rufus-curly f1b-
adult


Rufus-10 weeks old







Multi-generational golden doodle (or F2b): F1 golden doodle x F1b golden doodle
The multi-generational golden doodle has 1 first generation golden doodle parent and 1 2nd generation (f1b-f1 backcross) parent.  These parents should never be related to one another!  The multi-generational litter tends to produce puppies that range in coat type from flat coated to very curly.  Our experience has been that the wavy to curly puppies do not shed and are mostly hypo-allergenic.  The flat coated puppies generally tend to shed-usually minimally-and are not best for allergy sufferers.  Our multi-generational litters have been absolutely gorgeous with a little something for everyone.  They still retain a good deal of hybrid vigour and our puppies from these litters have proven to have wonderful health and longevity as well as amazing temperaments.


All of the following pictures are from multi-generational litters from the same two parents.  These puppies are from several different litters during the span of the dam's breeding years:















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F2 Golden doodle: F1 golden doodle X F1 golden doodle.  This combination is very unpredictable and will often produce random looking puppies with sparse coats and more retriever looking characteristics.  These are not true golden doodles.  

F1bb Golden doodle: F1b golden doodle x purebred poodle (Sometimes also referred to as an f2b)  This generation generally ends up being VERY curly and basically guaranteed to be non~shedding and allergy friendly.  Therefore, for someone with severe allergy issues or extreme adversion to shedding of any type~or for those that just love the super curly coat~they are a good choice.  They do retain some of the retreiver characteristics in personality and looks.